Guest Yachtsman1 Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 I have elements 6 & NX2 I have a show I'm re-vamping and have a rectangular picture of the moon and a picture of the galaxy. In the O&A window I want to animate the moon picture, can I get a circular moon????? I've tried for about 4 hours by using the circular marque tool cropping inverting and deleting but i've failed, can anyone put me right.Yachtsman1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lin Evans Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 Hi Eric,You must first create a transparent layer, copy and paste the moon image on this then erase the parts you don't want to show and save the file as a PNG.Rather than learn now, why don't you post a link to the image of the moon and I'll quickly do it for you then you can practice with the original and learn the process?If you like, just use this one:http://www.learntomakeslideshows.net/eric/ericmoon.pngBest regards,LinI have elements 6 & NX2 I have a show I'm re-vamping and have a rectangular picture of the moon and a picture of the galaxy. In the O&A window I want to animate the moon picture, can I get a circular moon????? I've tried for about 4 hours by using the circular marque tool cropping inverting and deleting but i've failed, can anyone put me right.Yachtsman1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fh1805 Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 Eric,To create the moon image proceed as follows:Create a new image in Elements 6 ensuring that "Background Contents" is set to "Transparent"Open the moon imageSelect all of the moon image (Select...All)Copy the selection to the clipboard (Edit...Copy)Switch to the new imagePaste the clipboard contents (Edit...Paste)Use the Magic Wand Tool to select the moonInvert the selection (Select...Inverse)Delete the selection (Edit...Cut)Save this image as a .PNG fileregards,Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Yachtsman1 Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 Thanks Lin & Peter.For the time being I have used Lins moon, however Peter, I think I got the proceedure correct but was saving as a JPEG not a PNG file. I will have a go later and report back. Thanks again to both.Regards Eric Yachtsman1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fh1805 Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 Eric,You have to save as a .PNG in order to preserve the transparency of the background. A JPEG will convert the transparent part to whatever your default background colour is in Photoshop (usually white).regards,Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Yachtsman1 Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 Eric,You have to save as a .PNG in order to preserve the transparency of the background. A JPEG will convert the transparent part to whatever your default background colour is in Photoshop (usually white).regards,PeterHi PeterHad a couple of tries using your instructions but I am still coming un-stuck somewhere. The magic wand, I haven't used before, read the instruction in the elements help, which didn't say much so I have assumed that I just select the wand, place it on the moon part of the image an click? Also in the final save stage I got the attached message, which I left as shown. The result did not delete the background, why I still don't know.Regards EricYachtsman1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRR Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 Hi PeterHad a couple of tries using your instructions but I am still coming un-stuck somewhere. The magic wand, I haven't used before, read the instruction in the elements help, which didn't say much so I have assumed that I just select the wand, place it on the moon part of the image an click? Also in the final save stage I got the attached message, which I left as shown. The result did not delete the background, why I still don't know.Regards EricYachtsman1Eric:Did you do the INVERT selection and DELETE as per Peter's instructions (second and third last points)?I click on OK when I get the dialogue box you attached to your post (leaving it at NONE) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Yachtsman1 Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 Hi JRRYes I followed it to the letter, but for some reason I can't make it work. I'm now wondering if it's due to my base image which has been messed around with in elements by using the crop, & eliptical marque tool. I'll find another & give it a try again.Regards EricYachtsman1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Yachtsman1 Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 Had another try with a new image, failed again, original background still present.This is the instructions given that I'm guessing, but could be guessing wrongly, these are the instructions and what I am actually doing.1 Create a new image in Elements 6 ensuring that "Background Contents" is set to "Transparent"2 Open the moon image3 Select all of the moon image (Select...All)4 Copy the selection to the clipboard (Edit...Copy)5 Switch to the new image. (Here I am going to FILE NEW IMAGE FROM CLIPBOARD which I'm unsure is correct?Paste the clipboard contents (Edit...Paste)Use the Magic Wand Tool to select the moon. HERE I'M SELECTING THE WAND, PLACING IT OVER THE MOON & CLICKING??? Invert the selection (Select...Inverse)Delete the selection (Edit...Cut)Save this image as a .PNG fileCan someone spot where I am fouling up?Regards EricYachtsman1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRR Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 Had another try with a new image, failed again, original background still present.This is the instructions given that I'm guessing, but could be guessing wrongly, these are the instructions and what I am actually doing.1 Create a new image in Elements 6 ensuring that "Background Contents" is set to "Transparent"2 Open the moon image3 Select all of the moon image (Select...All)4 Copy the selection to the clipboard (Edit...Copy)5 Switch to the new image. (Here I am going to FILE NEW IMAGE FROM CLIPBOARD which I'm unsure is correct?Paste the clipboard contents (Edit...Paste)Use the Magic Wand Tool to select the moon. HERE I'M SELECTING THE WAND, PLACING IT OVER THE MOON & CLICKING??? Invert the selection (Select...Inverse)Delete the selection (Edit...Cut)Save this image as a .PNG fileCan someone spot where I am fouling up?Regards EricYachtsman1 Eric:I think you are going wrong at step 5You should be making the new transparent file you created in step 1 active and then doing the edit paste into it.That will put the moon picture as layer 1 on a transparent backgroundThen carry on as you describe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fh1805 Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 Spot on, Jim!Eric, sorry my instructions were unclear but I thought you would have the necessary understanding of Photoshop Elements. As Jim says, at step 5 you need to activate the image created at step 1. In this way you are then working with an image that is based upon a transparent background.regards,Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esc Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 Hi Eric!Ha!!! I am as bad as you on Photoshop. But this time I can help you. What is missing in 5. is the way to get rid of the moon.After copying to the clipboard just Close the moon pix and you will seeyour new transparent pix. Then Paste. /Lennart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Yachtsman1 Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 Thanks for all the replies, I will have another go later and report back.Regards EricYachtsman1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Yachtsman1 Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 Had another go, but only partial success. When I use the magic wand on the moon pic it ony highlights part of the image. The background has gone but obviously it still isn't correct. Have attached original pic & PNG image.Regards EricYachtsman1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRR Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 Eric:The magic wand selection will only be partial if you click only once, you have to click a number of times to get the selection (with the magic wand set to add to the selection. I can't tell you how to that in Elements as I don't use Elements)Each time you click the WAND it will add pixels within a range of the value that you click on, you have to work at it to select it all.You may run into issues when clicking on the darker parts in that it will then select outside the moon. so you have to remove that selection by whatever tools you are familiar with.If the magic wand doesn't give you the results you want by multiple clicks, you could try the elliptical marquee toolThere are many ways to skin a cat in PhotoShop (Elements) as with any software. Peter's recipe is a very good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Yachtsman1 Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 Eric:The magic wand selection will only be partial if you click only once, you have to click a number of times to get the selection (with the magic wand set to add to the selection. I can't tell you how to that in Elements as I don't use Elements)Each time you click the WAND it will add pixels within a range of the value that you click on, you have to work at it to select it all.You may run into issues when clicking on the darker parts in that it will then select outside the moon. so you have to remove that selection by whatever tools you are familiar with.If the magic wand doesn't give you the results you want by multiple clicks, you could try the elliptical marquee toolThere are many ways to skin a cat in PhotoShop (Elements) as with any software. Peter's recipe is a very good one.Hi JimI used the eliptical marque tool before the wand and couldn't get a result, I'll give it another go later when things have quietened down.Regards EricYachtsman1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRR Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 EricIn PhotoShop when I use the ELLIPTICAL MARQUEE tool, I find it very hard sometimes to line up the tool exactly with the round selection I am trying to make, so I go SELECTION > MODIFY and that brings up a rectangle around the selection with "handles" at the corners (and along the edges) to allow you to squeeze/drag whatever until I get the selection the way I want.I am not sure of you can do that in ELEMENTS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Yachtsman1 Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 I have two books on elements, suppose I should read one or the other to see if I can spot where I'm going wrong. I've just finished the show with the moon shot using Lin's moon, so now that's out of the way I'll read up on the subject.Off to bed now. Night Night.Regards EricYachtsman1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fh1805 Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 Eric,If you do come to the AV group meeting on Friday, bring the image on a USB stick and I'll show you how to manipulate it.regards,Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Yachtsman1 Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 Eric,If you do come to the AV group meeting on Friday, bring the image on a USB stick and I'll show you how to manipulate it.regards,PeterThanks Peter, looking OK weatherwise, M has a regular appointment at Darlington eye dep't Friday where they put drops in her eyes which blurs her vision for up to 12 hours, hopefully she will be OK.Regards EricYachtsman1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Yachtsman1 Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 I'm back again After much fiddling & faddling I have come up with this solution, following the previous instructions with the following variation click the wand onto the black background not the moon, don't click inverse just delete which leaves the moon on the transparent layer, admittedly, one edge is a little ragged but I think the wand didn't like the original moon as no matter how many times I clicked on it holding the alt key down, it always left some transparency. Thank you to all who helped, hopefully my time left on this earth will be sufficient to learn a little more.Regards EricYachtsman1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRR Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 EricGlad you worked it outAs I say, there are many ways to skin a cat in PhotoShop Elements (and the full version). It is a matter of sorting out which one works best for your situation and your comfort levelI am sure Peter explaining things face to face tomorrow will make life much easier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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