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Hi Judy,

That's good news. After seeing what is happening with the ongoing "jerky video" thread, I'm even more inclined to keep my old system going even after purchasing the new one simply to test my various shows to be relatively certain that they will play smoothly on legacy systems as well.

It seems that the world of video has revealed substantial differentiation in our forum user's hardware. Eventually perhaps these problems will be resolved, but right now it seems that we can't rest assured that our shows containing video will necessarily be perceived by all as we see them because of the differences in hardware, drivers and such. This issue is made even more troubling by the fact that 4K video is on the horizon.

I remember only a few years ago that some of our French users such Patrick were experiencing grave difficulties even with fairly mild animations. I recall an instance when I created a show which I tried to demonstrate different types of snowfall. Patrick was seeing my softly falling snow in a few places as actually rising rather than falling. It was because of the relative antiquity of his hardware, but it brought the problems of the limitations of hardware into sharp focus for me.

When Igor uploaded the two version ( 1080p and 720p ) of Bert's video, I immediately saw the weakness of my present system made manifest. My old nVidia 8800GT, which was state of art when I purchased it, simply can't keep up. Neither version was even remotely usable for me, yet those with optimal systems were seeing either perfectly smooth playback or mild stutter on the 1080p version. Now I absolutely know that I will have to upgrade.

Indeed, I share some of your nostalgia for old times. I began with an Apple II, graduated to CPM and made my first sales by converting dBase II, WordStar and VisiCalc for users of Systel Word Processors (which were actually just nice little CPM computers in disguise) so they could use their $5,000+ dedicated word processors for general computing. This eventually evolved into founding a software development company and was one of the reasons I left teaching at the university to pursue a career in the computer industry.

I would like to hear more about your "pan speed" in the kitchen - LOL. Cooking has always been a total mystery to me. Since my wife passed away three years ago I have actually learned to cook Butternut Squash, and I can now actually boil water without burning the pan. Who says you can't teach an old dog new tricks??? HA!

Best regards,

Lin

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Hi Lin,

I like it :)!!

Seems ASUS makes/offers this G10AC version in several hardware flavors.

Their site lists the many possible hardware selection/configurations ... but not specific to a model number. The Support tab does have a User Manual available to atleast read up on in the waiting period.

http://www.asus.com/us/Desktops/G10AC/#specifications

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Hi Stu,

In the configuration offered by both BestBuy and B&H Photo, at least, it seems like a pretty nice combination of both CPU and GPU power with some nice features.

I bought a 30 inch 2560 x 1600 CTL 3001 Ultra 30 display and it took a while and a call to ASUS to be certain that the GPU was a separate card rather than integrated into the motherboard. I was uncertain from the description whether or not the GPU had the necessary dual link DVI port, but after finally finding a closeup image of the back apron of the system on the ASUS website I discovered that it is indeed a separate nVidia card and that it has a dual link DVI port so it should be satisfactory. The display has multi-resolution capabilities so should work fine with this card. It is far from the "best" 30" displays available - not terribly accurate on color, per PC Magazine, but for $499.00 for a high res 30" display with a three year warranty the price was just too good to resist. I have enough other displays which are spot-on accurate that I figured with high resolution I needed the size to be able to read fine print - HA!

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At first I was going to order the ASUS from BestBuy, but may do so from B&H instead because the price is slightly lower and I don't have to pay the high city tax on it so will save about $100. It comes with a one year parts and labor warranty so hopefully will make a nice system. It was good to hear that Judy Kay has had good luck with hers. I have so many older systems that about a half dozen are in storage. It's almost impossible to even "give" them away because even school children want the latest and greatest these days - LOL. I think I will try to keep this one disconnected from the web to minimize the probability of any malware getting on it and just dedicate it to PTE and processing photos.

I was somewhat surprised when I called ASUS tech-support for pre-purchase questions that the tech had a difficult time actually finding this model so we were on the same page. I actually had to point him to several URL's before he was able to find it on their own website. I guess they have so many combinations and new offerings that it takes a while for things to filter down from sales to support. Thanks for that link - that's one I hadn't seen!

For anyone else interested in a pretty great deal on a high resolution 30 " display with lots of bells and whistles, here's a link:

Link to Pretty Good Deal on Display I Think

Best regards,

Lin

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I bought a 30 inch 2560 x 1600 CTL 3001 Ultra 30 display and it took a while and a call to ASUS to be certain that the GPU was a separate card rather than integrated into the motherboard. I was uncertain from the description whether or not the GPU had the necessary dual link DVI port, but after finally finding a closeup image of the back apron of the system on the ASUS website I discovered that it is indeed a separate nVidia card and that it has a dual link DVI port so it should be satisfactory.

Lin The PCS web site has links to all the components listed in their construction wizard. With regard to the 760 installed in my machine, I have noticed the off line text on a couple of programmes such as OOO & Audacity is not as crisp as with my previous machine, I assume it's something to do with 3d or gaming requirements. There is a separate graphics card on the mother board on my set up, but requires a separate lead from the HDMI socket through a hub to switch between the two cards.

I think I will try to keep this one disconnected from the web to minimize the probability of any malware getting on it and just dedicate it to PTE and processing photos.

I think we would all like to do that, especially after my last brush with malware, but IMO with constant up-dates from all in sundry sources, it would be practically impossible.

Regards Eric

Yachtsman1

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Hi Eric,

What are the two video cards? Are they the same or could it be that you are using an integrated graphics rather than the more powerful 760 (assuming it's an nVidia GTX 760.) If so, you definitely want to disable the integrated graphics and use the GTX 760 instead. Unless you have two physical GPU cards installed, the probability is that you have a motherboard which included an Intel integrated graphics chip with shared resources and an nVIdia card has been added. I suspect this could account for the issue you are seeing with text.

Lin The PCS web site has links to all the components listed in their construction wizard. With regard to the 760 installed in my machine, I have noticed the off line text on a couple of programmes such as OOO & Audacity is not as crisp as with my previous machine, I assume it's something to do with 3d or gaming requirements. There is a separate graphics card on the mother board on my set up, but requires a separate lead from the HDMI socket through a hub to switch between the two cards.

I think we would all like to do that, especially after my last brush with malware, but IMO with constant up-dates from all in sundry sources, it would be practically impossible.

Regards Eric

Yachtsman1

Once the system is working properly, I see no reason to update on line. I can just download update data on another system and port it to the new one with a USB flash drive. In my experience, the majority of updates are Windows security updates and if the system is not on-line these are mostly superfluous. The few other updates such as Flash or such can easily be ported from another system without risking on-line exposure. I managed to keep my present development system off-line for over two years. Had my backup system not failed, I actually would never have put it on-line

Best Regards,

Lin

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Lin,

My MUSIC PC is probably 8-10 years old - going strong and has NEVER had its Windows XP Media Centre Edition OS updated.

It has always been off-line.

NX2 required that Frame Thingy be updated once or twice when it was being used for Imaging, but that was easy using a USB device as was updating NX2.

If required, I could go back to it at any time for Imaging and it has the latest versions necessary for NX2 (and my D600) and PTE.

I always figured that if it was running smoothly when it arrived at my workstation and I didn't abuse it by constantly updating it why fix what wasn't broken?

I always used MACRIUM REFLECT to make backup images of C Drive but never had to use them. I always used PERFECT DISC to keep it defragged and running smoothly.

It will be interesting to see how long it goes on for.

Go with it,

DG

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Hi Dave,

That's always been my attitude. If it's not broken, don't fix it. I fully understand internet security updates, but if the system isn't exposed to the internet, they have no relevance. As long as everything is working to my satisfaction, I see no reason to expose the anticipated new system to potential malware of any kind.

It was very nice for the two years I managed to keep my present development system off-line. No worries about even needing anti-virus/ anti-threat software and the numerous issues that these programs sometimes cause.

Best regards,

Lin

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Hi Eric,

What are the two video cards? Are they the same or could it be that you are using an integrated graphics rather than the more powerful 760 (assuming it's an nVidia GTX 760.) If so, you definitely want to disable the integrated graphics and use the GTX 760 instead. Unless you have two physical GPU cards installed, the probability is that you have a motherboard which included an Intel integrated graphics chip with shared resources and an nVIdia card has been added. I suspect this could account for the issue you are seeing with text.

Hi Lin, The Asus motherboard with its own graphics card, has its own HDMI socket, as does the 760, the monitor is connected to the 760 HDMI socket, which is why I think the 760 might not like run of the mill stuff such as those mentioned., If you remember when I got my last LT it wasn't until I queried the poor performance with PTE shows that I found that I had to tell it which card to use, which has caught out a few others, in this instance I'm assuming the Asus graphics card is for run of the mill stuff but isn't being used, I've attached a couple of screen shots to demonstrate what I mean. The PTE projected pictures are fine on the monitor, & colour is not an issue.

Regards Eric

Yachtsman1.

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